Sheikh's traditional wisdom.
Bismi'llah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim...for the sake of Prophet Muhammad saws and Sheikh Nazim may Allah protect his secret.
After the posts below on B.L. I just put up one of the Sheikh's talks..wondering if that might have any effect ..we'll see ....
Democracy.Monarchy.
It has been suggested that,because I do not know the history surrounding the French Revolution in detail,that maybe I have misunderstood what I have heard my Sheikh teaching for more than twenty years. I don't think that it was necessary to know those details in order to understand him and in fact it may have made it much harder to accept his teachings about democracy. We all are affected by human suffering and commiserate with our fellows when they are subjected to injustice.However the conclusions arrived at by intellect under the sway of emotion are not necessarily in agreement with traditional wisdom as taught by Sheikh Nazim. Since my last post below I came across this talk of his where,as usual,he does not mince words.I include it for those who are interested in the debate but anyone who finds it aggravating or a chore is not obliged to react.
Democracy, the Biggest Deception
We know that true, clean and honourable people are usually not accepted because the majority of people are dirty. Good people are being defeated. Since the beginning of mankind there are so many sufferings amongst people. Either they have never been given the rights which Allah ordained for them, or it has been taken away from them by force. These are the two reasons. People of Truth are not happy when people suffer. They want everyone to reach their rights. Then we will have peace. But the devils, who are establishing the kingdom of satan never want common people to have any rights. They only want it for a group of people, not for everyone. They want to be shepherds and the rest to be the flock. A shepherd may do anything he wants with the flock. The flock has no rights except to eat, drink produce new lambs and get fat for the knife of the butcher. From the beginning until now common people have no rights. Since the beginning of time mankind have been asking for their rights. Some people suffer a lot, others are satisfied. Until 1779 the governing system was monarchy. When a good person became king, emperor or sultan, the people were happy. If not, they were unhappy. Throughout the centuries mankind was always trying to get their rights. Devils come and disguise themselves as advisors, just like satan did with Adam in Paradise. But he has only had one interest all along, to take us from Paradise to hell. He has been repeating this same line with people throughout time. He convinces them that there is a new method in which everyone will be a shepherd, everyone will be governing. The flock doesn't even think whether this is possible, or not, they just follow. When this was introduced in 1779 maybe people could not understand. But now? Do they have complete empty heads? They believe in democracy! It is the biggest fraud. There is a group of people seeing that one shepherd eats everything. Then they say, "Why should it only be one person? We must form a company called democracy. Instead of having one person on the top, we must have 1000. We must cheat people and tell them that they have elections and that they are deciding." Democracy is a big company of devils. But until today people are not understanding. Electing people! What are you electing? Putting 500 people there and saying that this is power? People were hoping that this new system would give them their rights. But they quickly recognised that in the time of monarchy they had many more rights, much more mercy and many more blessings. Monarchy had one person, now it is thousands of people. The rights of the masses are diminishing from day to day but they continue to talk about human rights! These clever French people! They opened their prisons and let their criminals run their country. They killed all their good people. That was the opening. Because if you do not thank Allah, you will fall down. People were always complaining about their kings, so Allah punished them by giving them something worse. They thought they were getting good days, but it was the opposite. Since then they are removing one king after another, but still not finding what they were looking for. People continue to ask for human rights. For this purpose they have established the UN in the USA, the place of the biggest lies. They claim to defend and give human rights! Monarchies are gone and the new system democracy never gives anything. Look at Turkey for example. The Prime Minister asked me to come and break the fast with him. Those satanic people, the media, got up and asked why he wanted to invite Holy People? Are those the rights that we have? People are more and more understanding the value of having a king or a sultan. Democracy is finished! The more people ask for a monarchy, the sooner it will come. Allah is sending the news to our Grandsheiks telling us that the monarchy will be back. We are seeing that people are fed up with being cheated. Every nation is now saying that the time has come for their sultans to return. The time has come to ask pardon from them because we did not respect them. In Germany they did an opinion-poll and they found that 60 % want their Kaiser back. After the worst system has fallen, communism, which is even worse than democracy. The people of Russia also want their Tsars. Rumanians want their kings. Even the Serbs want their king back, as well as the Ottomans in Turkey.Defending Truth© by Sheikh Nazim Al-Qubrusi Al-Haqqani
After the posts below on B.L. I just put up one of the Sheikh's talks..wondering if that might have any effect ..we'll see ....
Democracy.Monarchy.
It has been suggested that,because I do not know the history surrounding the French Revolution in detail,that maybe I have misunderstood what I have heard my Sheikh teaching for more than twenty years. I don't think that it was necessary to know those details in order to understand him and in fact it may have made it much harder to accept his teachings about democracy. We all are affected by human suffering and commiserate with our fellows when they are subjected to injustice.However the conclusions arrived at by intellect under the sway of emotion are not necessarily in agreement with traditional wisdom as taught by Sheikh Nazim. Since my last post below I came across this talk of his where,as usual,he does not mince words.I include it for those who are interested in the debate but anyone who finds it aggravating or a chore is not obliged to react.
Democracy, the Biggest Deception
We know that true, clean and honourable people are usually not accepted because the majority of people are dirty. Good people are being defeated. Since the beginning of mankind there are so many sufferings amongst people. Either they have never been given the rights which Allah ordained for them, or it has been taken away from them by force. These are the two reasons. People of Truth are not happy when people suffer. They want everyone to reach their rights. Then we will have peace. But the devils, who are establishing the kingdom of satan never want common people to have any rights. They only want it for a group of people, not for everyone. They want to be shepherds and the rest to be the flock. A shepherd may do anything he wants with the flock. The flock has no rights except to eat, drink produce new lambs and get fat for the knife of the butcher. From the beginning until now common people have no rights. Since the beginning of time mankind have been asking for their rights. Some people suffer a lot, others are satisfied. Until 1779 the governing system was monarchy. When a good person became king, emperor or sultan, the people were happy. If not, they were unhappy. Throughout the centuries mankind was always trying to get their rights. Devils come and disguise themselves as advisors, just like satan did with Adam in Paradise. But he has only had one interest all along, to take us from Paradise to hell. He has been repeating this same line with people throughout time. He convinces them that there is a new method in which everyone will be a shepherd, everyone will be governing. The flock doesn't even think whether this is possible, or not, they just follow. When this was introduced in 1779 maybe people could not understand. But now? Do they have complete empty heads? They believe in democracy! It is the biggest fraud. There is a group of people seeing that one shepherd eats everything. Then they say, "Why should it only be one person? We must form a company called democracy. Instead of having one person on the top, we must have 1000. We must cheat people and tell them that they have elections and that they are deciding." Democracy is a big company of devils. But until today people are not understanding. Electing people! What are you electing? Putting 500 people there and saying that this is power? People were hoping that this new system would give them their rights. But they quickly recognised that in the time of monarchy they had many more rights, much more mercy and many more blessings. Monarchy had one person, now it is thousands of people. The rights of the masses are diminishing from day to day but they continue to talk about human rights! These clever French people! They opened their prisons and let their criminals run their country. They killed all their good people. That was the opening. Because if you do not thank Allah, you will fall down. People were always complaining about their kings, so Allah punished them by giving them something worse. They thought they were getting good days, but it was the opposite. Since then they are removing one king after another, but still not finding what they were looking for. People continue to ask for human rights. For this purpose they have established the UN in the USA, the place of the biggest lies. They claim to defend and give human rights! Monarchies are gone and the new system democracy never gives anything. Look at Turkey for example. The Prime Minister asked me to come and break the fast with him. Those satanic people, the media, got up and asked why he wanted to invite Holy People? Are those the rights that we have? People are more and more understanding the value of having a king or a sultan. Democracy is finished! The more people ask for a monarchy, the sooner it will come. Allah is sending the news to our Grandsheiks telling us that the monarchy will be back. We are seeing that people are fed up with being cheated. Every nation is now saying that the time has come for their sultans to return. The time has come to ask pardon from them because we did not respect them. In Germany they did an opinion-poll and they found that 60 % want their Kaiser back. After the worst system has fallen, communism, which is even worse than democracy. The people of Russia also want their Tsars. Rumanians want their kings. Even the Serbs want their king back, as well as the Ottomans in Turkey.Defending Truth© by Sheikh Nazim Al-Qubrusi Al-Haqqani
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